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January 04, 2009

Barely into 2009 and Mandy's off her meds again ...

... and she's listening to the voices in her head ... (lord knows, there's plenty of space to play in there).

The problem with teenage sexuality for right wingers is not that they’re too young per se, it’s that most kids will have to try on a few partners before they find one that fits well, and this sexual and romantic experimentation is what’s considered a problem. So the solution is clearly to make sure that kids who have sex get tied to their first partner through a baby, and preferably through marriage and a baby. Because fuck those kids; they don’t deserve happiness when so many of adults are grouchy and unfulfilled.

The Palins, you see, have assaulted poor li'l Mandy. Mandy finds it impossible to reconcile that Inauthentic Women can hold that teenagers would be better off not having sex and/or avoiding pregnancy yet actually be loving, supportive and even happy (!!!) when a healthy baby is born. Such a reasonable, moral, adult stance is causing the poor dear to engage in dark, muttering conspiracies about what RightWingers Really Really Think About Teh Sex!!

Excuse me while I stop clutching my pearls.

It doesn't take much to set Mandy off into the throes of straw-doll making of Inauthentic Women(tm) but it certainly did help that Jodi Jacobson at Reality Check [heh.] should base her own Palin smears on an oft-repeated equivocation

Yet the situation is also full of irony. Bristol grew up in a family which espoused abstinence-only policies, not just as a familial choice, but also a state- and national strategy.
No, Governor Palin did not and does not
“I’m pro-contraception, and I think kids who may not hear about it at home should hear about it in other avenues."
Again, such reasonableness about public school sex-ed -- be age appropriate, stress abstinence, cover contraceptives, leave off the outlier explicit sex practices -- doesn't fit with the cartoon of non-leftist women as a bunch of frigid, sex-hating breeders in total thrall to wife-beating footsoldiers of The Patriarchy(tm).

Parenting is like teaching a skill, be it sewing, cooking, or building a house. There are basic, sound standards to learn and rules to follow. If one is going to build a home, whether it is a contemporary ranch or Victorian revival, a sound foundation is required, know how to use a level, do math correctly, etc. The same approach is what good parents, including RightWinger parents, do when raising children to become responsible adults and partners in solid relationships. When our loved ones make honest mistakes, we still love them, support them and get them back on the road. Teh Sex is all part and parcel of life and relationships and really a great, warm, fun, bring-us-closer part. But it is only part and doesn't exist in a vacuum where it becomes some political flag of authentication.

It is amusing to observe the style of emo-ing that wants to ban McDonalds being sold to kids, fire any school admin that allows Coca-Cola on campus but defends the "right" of 13 year old girls to get abortions without their parent(s) knowledge.

And it does come down to abortion. Not the act itself, but the iconic political position it occupies for many of the Authentic Womyn set. Certainly poor Mandy's own incoherencies and hallucinations about RightWinger Sex(tm) spring from her own issues

I called my sometimes-boyfriend, my inconstant lover and told him I was probably pregnant. I wanted him to offer to pay for the abortion. He offered instead to marry me.

I nearly threw the phone against the wall.

What can be said of a person who pitches a fit that the first reaction of her boyfriend was NOT "Hey, let's just suck out that problem." Heavens! How dare there be any consequence to fucking! How dare a male act like more than a carbon-based vibrator and not be my mind-reader at the same time!!! Hufff!!! PUFFF!!!

Really, the only "grouchiness" in view here is Mandy's.

Us RightWingers? We are too busy having fun and sex.

Posted by Darleen at January 4, 2009 06:14 PM

Comments

Damn, Darleen, you sure embarrassed yourself at PW. Your anger is consuming you. Every comment you made, without even discussing the viciousness of the post itself, brimmed with hostility and contempt.

As far as the post goes, you missed Ms. Marcotte's point: abstinence only education, the kind favored by your new Goddess, does not work and conservatives reap what they sow.

Where Amanda sees an attempt to cause intentional misery on women as the reason conservative "intellects" persist on the Sisyphean task of changing human nature (indeed life's nature), I would just point Amanda toward the Iraq war, to the "War on Terror," to the "clean-up" of Katrina, to privatizing Social Security, or to our economy in general. Simply put, conservatives are self-centered incompetents who believe what they want to believe no matter what empiricism says.

Darleen believes in Palin, no matter how many times it's pointed out to her that Palin is a phony and not that conservative (just a evangelical). Darleen believes Amanda Marcotte is wrong and evil. Darleen believes abstinence only education will stop teenagers from having sex, when we know it does not. Darleen believes a whole of things which are just not true. And, when one believes something completely at odds with the facts of the Universe, one becomes pretty angry at the Universe for not behaving like it's supposed to according to what Darleen knows.

Y'all just believe a lot of things that just aren't true.

Posted by: timb at January 5, 2009 11:47 AM

Well, not all of you are busy having fun and sex. Your boy Dennis Prager is busy explaining why it's ok for him to rape his wife.

Posted by: Josh E. at January 5, 2009 11:59 AM

Dennis Prager said no such thing in that article. You're lying, Josh E.

Posted by: Chris at January 5, 2009 07:28 PM

You're right, Chris! And neither has Amanda Marcotte stopped taking medication! You must find the internet a strange and confusing place.

Posted by: Josh E. at January 5, 2009 09:15 PM

You know, Chris is just full of sputtering hate. It's weird, 'cause in Chris and Darleen's world you either accept Marcotte's position that women are largely held down by men or you accept Prager's position that if a woman wants to stay married, she should put out when she doesn't want to. Darleen's world demands you choose between silliness on one side and moronic stupidity on the other. It's what having a Manichean worldview does to one...forces you to defend Dennis Prager or Amanda Marcotte. I choose neither.

Maybe the simplistic views of Darleen are why she loves Sarah "the real American part of America" Palin.

Posted by: timb at January 6, 2009 06:11 AM

I am shocked that libtards didn’t just trot out their tried and true line about how certain animals do it, so it must be natural and ok for libtards.

Posted by: ML at January 6, 2009 08:17 AM

Yep, Darleen and Marcotte are essentially mirror images of each other, timb. It may be this similarity that drives Darleen's Marcotte obsession.

Posted by: Josh at January 6, 2009 10:05 AM

Addressing the facile comment: yeah, people are not animals

To Josh: Where they agree, I believe, is that either would have had Edwards's love baby.

Darleen may deny it, but watching her huff and puff about Edwards hair certainly lends credence to the idea that she really admired it in a repressed, Godbother, lonely single gal in SoCal way. I just have this feeling she would claw Marcotte's eyeballs out until Edwards's hair was mentioned and then the two would launch into a description of how "dreamy" and "neat" he is, while they did each other's hair.*


*the beauty of that joke is that it would offend both of the crazy crusaders! I mean, how crazy is Darleen that she makes Marcotte look more mainstream?

Posted by: timb at January 7, 2009 07:27 AM

I guess there was not that many salads to toss at the Hamas meeting last night, so the troll came here.

Posted by: ML at January 7, 2009 09:20 AM

Your knowledge of what transpires at a Hamas meeting is troubling, ML, since it places at risk of arrest. Hamas is a designated terrorist organization and attending their meetings would make Homeland Security folks very interested in Jose Padilla-ing you.

Also, you fascination with homosexuality (every post seems to reference it) seems the same sort of problem Darleen (you remember her, right, Josh and I were talking about her ideas. You should join us) has with Marcotte. All I can tell you, ml, ol' pal, is don't deny yourself who you are. Darleen won't want you to marry, but Josh and I may be able to spring for a gift card, if coming out makes you a lot more tolerable. You'd be like a butterfly: a jerk going in, a happy guy -- with an impeccably decorated apartment -- coming out! Heck, you might even have an opinion worth reading.

Posted by: timb at January 7, 2009 11:59 AM

I see the code pink luncheon got out early.

I guess the troll wont be late for the CAIR meeting tonight, they say once you get passed the smell, you have it licked!

Tomorrow we will find out if that’s true or not, well unless the NAMBLA meeting runs too late.

Posted by: ML at January 7, 2009 12:21 PM

The result of liberal values and the negative effect they have on society at large.

"A recent study of 25,000 incarcerated juveniles made by the Bureau of Justice Statistics indicates that 72 percent of them came from broken homes. Seventy-four percent of the nation's children live with two parents, 26 percent with one parent. A child growing up in a single-parent home (usually female-headed) is seven times as likely to be a delinquent. Statistics from the Los Angeles Times, 19 September, 1988. Cited in Amneus, The Garbage Generation, page 179

But don’t believe your lying eyes, conservatives are the problem what we really need is just more liberal values, yeah those values have worked out well I see.

Posted by: ML at January 7, 2009 12:46 PM

Think about NAMBLA a lot, do ya, ML?

Posted by: Josh at January 7, 2009 03:41 PM

No, at least not until “timb” went on his pedophilia rampage, then I started to wonder about him.

Are you his sock or meat puppet?

Not always but most of the time you both seem to comment within minutes of each other and you always show overwhelming support for the troll, so I figure you are his sock puppet or his meat puppet, but not sure which nor do I really care

Posted by: ML at January 7, 2009 06:24 PM

Timb

Are you pregnant?

Tribute To Assud, the Jew eating rabbit

Posted by: ML at January 7, 2009 10:04 PM

maybe this link will work?

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=cdd_1231386597

Posted by: ML at January 7, 2009 10:31 PM

What's wrong with CAIR. I know conservatives make it out to be some bogeyman, but it's no different from the NAACP or the ADL or NOW or the Chamber of Commerce (protects white dudes). It's a group which seeks to protect its minority from the majority.

Frankly, after seeing the hate which throw out toward Arabs (rivaling only your hate toward the gays), I can understand why they a group. Add into the fact that little ml's exist on AirTran flights to ruin people's vacations and you are talking about some people who need an interest group!

Man, I wish I could in on some of that AirTran money...that discrimination lawsuit wrote itself when AirTran wouldn't even heed to counsel and advice of FBI agents to put those nice Americans on a different flight!

With folks like ML out there, maybe I should see if CAIR needs more counsels? The discrimination proceeds could put my kids through college.

Posted by: timbt at January 8, 2009 08:11 AM

Of course you don’t see anything wrong with terrorists you are to busy tossing their salad and fluffing them, that is what makes you, well you.

Posted by: ML at January 8, 2009 08:50 AM

Your working knowledge of porn is not exactly keeping with your loudly announced Godliness is it, ml?

By the way, CAIR is not a terrorist organization, nor does it have terrorist ties. Typical of the Michael Savage cons to believe things which just aren't true.

Or, hold it, given your incredibly tangential post (I use "incredibly," because almost every post you've made here is tangential and most reflect a Ted Haggard/Larry Craig fascination with gay sex), the sudden interest in single mothers is from Ann Coulter's promotional tour! How quaint. She still working over her Catholic school girl grievances with the Murphy Brown, while most of the rest of us have moved on.

ML, cribbing from the crazies like Coulter and Savage? You'd be ashamed if you weren't planning on some exciting porn surfing, eh? Would Jesus do that, ML? Would he?

Guess, you'll be traipsing down that road to Hell with your Jewish relatives, those unfortunate married gay people you hate, and the Muslims/Arabs you loathe. Man, that would be entertaining! Almost makes me wish there were a god, so I could laugh at you then like I do now.

Posted by: timb at January 8, 2009 09:38 AM

Of course CAIR is not just a group of Moslem terrorists nor do they have ties to terrorists just like Hamas doesn’t really rain rockets down on Israel and Moslems don’t really hate Jews and down is up and up is down.

Its interesting that when I insinuate that you like to lick the dirty asshole’s of the asshole terrorists, you assume they are all men, maybe you are just hoping?

Strange that you claim there is nothing wrong with being gay, yet you take offense when I insinuate you are gay, typical bigoted worthless troll.

Posted by: ML at January 8, 2009 10:19 AM

I understand that you living with Moslems causes you to hide your homosexual desires seeing that Moslems like to kill gays but of course they fully except pedophilia seeing as Mohammed was a pedophile so you are safe in that regard.

Posted by: ML at January 8, 2009 10:30 AM

First, try a comma; second, Mohammed was as much as pedophile as any good Christian; third, I could care less if you called me gay, I am more concerned with where your fascination with porn and, particularly, gay porn comes from; fourth, prove CAIR has been named a terrorist organization (I'll save you the trouble. The US govt likes to go after any group of Muslims supporting Hezbollah or Hamas, since they have been designated terrorist organizations. The Holy Land Foundation, for example, donated money for --it maintained --"peaceful" purposes and it was shut down and its leaders jailed. If this administration had a case to make against CAIR, it would have done so. Wow, ml is wrong again).

In the meantime, ml needs to return to perusing to his porn. If you would like some light reading, here is the link to Is Homophobia Associated With Homosexual Arousal?, a famous study that showed the reason you hate gays, ml, is because, well, as I think your comments here show, you're a bit repressed about your own desires.

If you need some time off to contemplate the porn or your own desires, I'm sure Chris can fill the role of raving, savagely angry lunatic while you're gone. Then again, Chris has this annoying habit of staying on-topic.

Plus, I will definitely miss your idiotic assertion that CAIR is Palestinian. Do you know, much like christians, Muslims come in many colors, from the white Caucus mountain folks, to the black Sudanese, to the Arabs, to the Asian Uighurs? Thinking "American-Islamic" means Arab just shows how utterly lacking in basic knowledge you are.*


*especially, ironic given your rather encyclopedic knowledge of and fascination with sex acts!

Posted by: timb at January 8, 2009 12:24 PM

Only a code pink terrorist loving Jew hating worthless troll would and could think that naming 2 sex acts is equivalent to an encyclopedia of knowledge.

Of course there are different Moslems, yet there is only one Qur’an and a few hadiths and one Mohammed to which you excuse his pedophilia because someone somewhere is a pedophile also, how can you argument with logic like that?

Don’t you and code pink with your Islamic terrorist brothers have an anti-Israeli rally to attend, where you can scream that Jews just need to be put into bigger ovens and then CAIR can file some lawsuits because Moslems are not given any special treatment and infidels are allowed to read the Qur’an and disclose its contents?

What a terrorist shilling salad tossing troll.

Posted by: ML at January 8, 2009 01:10 PM

Damn, ML, you sure do like licking Mohammed's pedophile asshole after your code pink meeting. Not sure why you're so eager to talk about it in public though.

Posted by: Josh at January 8, 2009 11:13 PM

And right on cue, the meat/sock/dick puppet reaches new levels of incoherence.

I guess I should get a BA if I wants to talk so stupidly.

What a fucking moron.

Posted by: ML at January 8, 2009 11:55 PM

Your unhinged, spittle-flecked weird comment, which for some reason eschew punctuation, indicate you should try to get that GED first.

Nonetheless, I will continue to urge to realize your hatred and fascination with gays is because you are one. Come out of the closet and then I'll help you with the GED.

I think with a couple of years, you could be a functioning member of society, instead of foul-mouthed slanderer and exemplar of everything wrong with "christians".

Josh, I'm probably wrong to engage it ML, while he's this crazy, but does he remind you of The Exorcist right now too? Just sitting there and spouting filthy "insults" in a gravelly voice? Dude has turned into several kinds of crazy, which

....brings us full circle. Darleen is single now, ml, and, given your hatred of all the same things and how you two just love hatred, maybe you two crazy kids should get together?

A closeted bigoted, hate-filled, "christian" should be better than her last husband (according to what she wrote on PW), so consider this a Plan B.

However you seek to fix your weird fascination with....well, so many things, I'm sure you'll feel better about it.

Posted by: timb at January 9, 2009 08:20 AM

Shouldn’t you be out shilling for CAIR and code pink, you fit in really well they are a bunch of whiney ass bitches just like you.

Same double standard also, they can say what they want, then promptly whine and cry and scream injustice when it gets throw back at them.

What a bitchy whiney crying manly man you are, you have the mental capacity and maturity level of a preschool age child.

You are nothing but a whiney bitchy troll here and at Patterico and at PW.

Now send your dick puppet over to protect your honor and your stupidity.

Posted by: ML at January 9, 2009 09:40 AM

I see your “Crixus” sockpuppet slipped over at Patterico

Comment # 5 & 6

http://patterico.com/2009/01/09/palestinian-fakery-should-big-media-investigate-whether-its-happening/#comment-443928

What a lunatic you are, LOL!

Posted by: ML at January 9, 2009 09:03 PM

I wonder who deletes my comments over there? The first time I wrote it, nothing happened. The second time, I used a name I heard the other day, and it went right on through. So, whoever usually deletes must have let that one through to embarrass me. Clever ploy

Posted by: timb at January 10, 2009 11:21 AM

Right!

And Josh is not your dick puppet.

LOL!

Posted by: ML at January 10, 2009 11:50 AM

Well this was really hard to figure out, maybe when I get my GED it wont take so long the next time?

You and your dick puppet Josh have a hard-on for Darleen because you wore out your welcome at PW and got banned, do you think I am surprised you acted like a trollish illiberal illogic immature salad tossing asshat?

I bet you get banned everywhere you go because you cant help but being a worthless asshole and a troll and a outright fucking lair and immature salad tosser for Hamas and a fluffer for code pink, but that’s who you are.

Posted by: ML at January 10, 2009 06:14 PM

Licking Islamic assholes?
Pedophilic homosexuals?
dick puppets and ass bitches?

My god, you nuts and bats are one sick bunch.

Posted by: centristderangementsyndrome at January 10, 2009 10:31 PM

Oh no, not another sock puppet!

Posted by: ML at January 10, 2009 11:31 PM

You wanna piece of me, punk?

Posted by: sockpuppet at January 11, 2009 05:20 PM

“I don’t want a piece of you, I want the whole thing!”

Mrs. ihateyouall@hotmail.com

Posted by: ML at January 11, 2009 06:40 PM

I'm not your dick puppet either, punk.

Posted by: Mr. ihateyouall at January 12, 2009 09:57 AM

Well Mr. Ihateyouall@hotmail.com or sockpuppet@hotmail.com

I see a certain nuance is lost on you.

I would never say you are “my” dickpuppet, I would either say you are a dickpuppet or you are timb’s dickpuppet.

See the difference?

Posted by: ML at January 12, 2009 06:20 PM

If you can’t play with the big boys, than stay off the porch

PUNK!

Posted by: ML at January 12, 2009 06:22 PM

I don’t mind playing with obsessive-compulsive dickpuppets, as long as they can spell.

Posted by: sockpuppet at January 12, 2009 08:22 PM

obsessive-compulsive dickpuppets.

indeed.

Posted by: ML at January 12, 2009 08:44 PM

Good. Use your aggressive feelings, boy. Let the hate flow through you.

Posted by: centristderangementsyndrome at January 13, 2009 10:16 AM

Is punctuation important? Some people, notable with initials ML, have taken to not punctuating their screeds.

I'll say this about my screeds: they be rants full of invective and contempt for ML and Darleen. They may have misspellings and forgotten words (I am a terrible typist). But, I take great care to punctuate the various strings of adjectives, lest I lose the more casual reader...

Oh, and ML has an obsession with hating Muslims and Arabs, an abnormal interest in firearms, and a love for porn.

Posted by: timb at January 13, 2009 01:28 PM

hating Muslims and Arabs, an abnormal interest in firearms, and a love for porn.

Too easy timb. Access into today’s club conservatism is denied without those things. Though I’ve heard Bush worship is still tolerated if one wears a mullet.

Posted by: centristderangementsyndrome at January 13, 2009 03:49 PM

Those nice lefties, what a loveable bunch.

I wonder what the requirement to join that club is?

littlegreenfootballs2

Posted by: ML at January 13, 2009 05:19 PM

As the saying goes, sometimes you’re the bug and sometimes you’re the windshield.

In timb’s case its; sometimes you’re the underwear and sometimes you’re the skid-mark.

Posted by: ML at January 13, 2009 05:28 PM

What's PW, ML? Also, can't you come up with something other than CAIR and Code Pink? I mean, they're kind of worn at this point. There's a whole google out there. Try the Muslim Brotherhood and ACT UP! or something. I like a little variety in my nonsensical sub-literate screeching.

Posted by: Josh at January 13, 2009 05:44 PM

I like a little variety in my nonsensical sub-literate screeching.

You must have mistaken me for someone who gives a fuck.

Posted by: ML at January 13, 2009 06:10 PM

I don’t understand why anybody gets all emotionally wrapped up in that Israeli-Palestinian shit, especially when it’s thousands of miles away. This same kind of crap has been going on between humans for millennia. Every time some group gets their asses conquered there will always be some people from amongst the losers who can’t seem to move on and stay pissed off until they get their revenge. There are still descendants of the Celts who are pissed off at descendants of the Anglo-saxons. So who’s side are you on? Well get your ass in gear and pick a side, find a bunch of bloggers to get really pissed off with, then pack up some guns and get the hell over there and kick some ass! Or are you just a wuss?

Posted by: centristderangementsyndrome at January 13, 2009 07:44 PM

Posted by: centristderangementsyndrome at January 13, 2009 07:44 PM

Stuipd sockpuppets, someone who just recently showed up here sure has a good idea about the arguments from Patterico, so it must be a timb sockpuppet.

You are correct, it is verboten for you to pick sides in any conflict or debate, it is verboten for you to decipher between right and wrong and what is moral or immoral it is verboten, unless you are willing to take up arms and go somewhere and really do something, it is verboten and you are a wuss.

And that kinda logic says: All the folks that stayed here in America to built planes and other stuff during WW2 were just a bunch of pussies and could not take any side in the war because it was thousands of miles away and they did not take up arms.

What a douche bag and it exhibits the same stupidity that timb displays, maybe a sockpuppet or maybe a friend, birds of a feather flock together.

Posted by: ML at January 13, 2009 08:37 PM

The only thing I know about Patterico is that he occasionally feuds with Greenwald, another lawyer.

Only a wuss fights virtually. If you’re physically incapable, then figure out why Israeli arabs seem to be much happier than Gazan arabs and present some solutions to your Israeli friends. Leave the mindless barking to your dog.

When I fought moral battles, real ones, I was as often abandoned as not. These false allies were virtual wusses such as yourself. Now I choose sides and fight only when it will benefit me, and am sure of loyalty.

Many folks who did not volunteer and were not drafted into that just war were heroic enough.
But back to the point, that “kinda logic” actually involves always choosing sides for every issue without any analysis of purpose, benefit or outcome.

Except for Darleen Click, we’re all sockpuppets here.

Posted by: centristderangementsyndrome at January 13, 2009 10:50 PM

Josh, PW = protein wisdom, Darleen's home away from home. There she can abuse a wider latitude of folks and actually has a readership. Be forewarned, the commenters over there are as nuts as Darleen, and as vicious as ML, but whole lot smarter. There are 12 of them and they post all day long and they hate dissent. ML's porn obsession would tire quickly over there.

In baseball terms, PW is Double A and this here is a rookie league.

Posted by: timb at January 14, 2009 07:07 AM

Except for Darleen Click, we’re all sockpuppets here.

You don’t know what a sockpuppet is.

Only a wuss fights virtually.

Ok, so you have convinced me that you are wuss,
but I suppose you don’t think you fit your own pigeonhole,
even thought here you are fighting virtually and other mindless barking , ironic isn’t it?

You can tell from the style and the complete lack of logic that poster is “timb”, or their mind does not work in exactly the same way that timb does not, while trying to disparage others you only disparage yourself and are completely blind to that fact.

Timb makes that mistake all the time and I notice the style is identical, start with an insult go off on a tangent then end with another insult, its classic non-thinking timb.

Posted by: ML at January 14, 2009 09:38 AM

Specifically, a sockpuppet is someone who deludes themselves into believing they can persuade more effectively via multiple internet identities. Generally, it’s anybody who doesn’t reveal their true identity.

Sorry, but you’re the wuss. After we and our allies were attacked by Japan and Germany, we did not retaliate by attacking Spain and badmouthing Ecuador. That would have been wussy. I already said that I don’t care about either Israeli or Palestinian causes, as I’m convinced that interfering with their affairs does not help me at all, or Americans in general. I poke around the internet because I’m interested in the concept of tribalism for personal reasons. I have no interest in ideology, which is always a useful ruse for the powerful.

If you were capable of logic then you would also be capable of unemotional devils advocacy positions. The goal of logic is always truth, not the defense of one’s emotional attachment to their own perceptions.

If you had half a brain, you’d be able to locate us “sockpuppets” geographically.

Posted by: centristderangementsyndrome at January 14, 2009 10:45 AM

Children of Hamas

Sorry, just being a wuss again, now I would rather be a wuss then this douche bag poster who shills for these people and their inbred Islamic Jew hatred.

Posted by: ML at January 14, 2009 10:53 AM

I think it goes without saying that you would never consider yourself a wuss, only others can fit your own definitions which will quickly change the minute someone points out your blatant hypocrisy.

Cause you and I know you are not here arguing or fighting about ideologies because those are of no interest too you and yet here are, with your always evolving topic that is in a state of constant perpetual motion.

You clearly have your own definitions for things, like sockpuppet, but I am sure it doesnt end there.

Posted by: ML at January 14, 2009 11:21 AM

Ironically here is another example of blatant hypocrisy.

You are a "wuss" for discussing or taking sides in and not fighting in the Israeli conflict, yet making reference to the Iraq war and thus discussing it, must somehow fall under a technicality?

Posted by: ML at January 14, 2009 12:02 PM

Cause you and I know you are not here arguing or fighting about ideologies because those are of no interest too you and yet here are, with your always evolving topic that is in a state of constant perpetual motion.

Specifically? Or should I be more specific myself when refuting your accusations?

Ironically here is another example of blatant hypocrisy.
You are a "wuss" for discussing or taking sides in and not fighting in the Israeli conflict, yet making reference to the Iraq war and thus discussing it, must somehow fall under a technicality?

My official position regarding invading Iraq was neutral, since my best intelligence resource involves a subscription to Comcast cable, while the Commander in Chief has the best intelligence resources on the planet. Plus it's his job to make the big calls based on this intelligence. I assumed his competency, but was disturbed by two things, though I never commented about them:

1. Many military experts were echoing what his own father’s administration (41) had said about the manpower required to succeed in Iraq, while most of his own non-military staff were poo-pooing these estimates as pessimistic, even predicting a cakewalk.

2. Anybody who was skeptical about the invasion for whatever reason – pacifism, manpower concerns, missing the bin Laden target... , was rarely if ever debated with and usually was proclaimed a liberal leftie terrorist enabling traitor (or similar) by conservatives.

I didn’t care about Iraq because it was the Commander in Chief’s call. But when my concerns were proven valid (and damned expensive), I became vocal. I am now fighting in that war through my taxpayer dollars, and any additional expenses which possible blowback will produce. IMO, it would be irresponsible to not be vocal now.

Posted by: centrisderangementsyndrome at January 14, 2009 01:18 PM

So somehow that comment refuted my accusations of you being a shill for Hamas, you are really timb’s sockpuppet and you being hypocrite beside being a fraud who doesnt understand the meaning of words?

OK.

Posted by: ML at January 14, 2009 02:48 PM

Seriously, ML, the guy or gal claims to be neutral and you say that means he's/she's a Hamas supporter? Unless, you follow the ML position: Jews are going to Hell, but killing Arabs makes them useful," then a person is a Hamas supporter?

Just stupid.

Posted by: timb at January 15, 2009 06:28 AM

That's the problem with today’s conservative movement. The tribalism which is required for any social structure to function has become completely out of balance there. The lockstep marching which was once so successful in getting the movement places is now mindlessly taking them off a cliff, with the original classical liberal, constitutionalist and Goldwater-ian thinkers watching helplessly. A good lesson for us all.

Posted by: centristderangementsyndrome at January 15, 2009 10:44 AM

Strange how that poster writes in your exact style giving lengthy opinions on their many off tangent topics acting like someone cares which is identical to how you write, but we can pretend its not you playing a sockpuppet if it makes you feel any better.

Now the poster in question can make whatever claims they want, their own words contradict those claims. Coming here and screaming “you are a wuss for discussing the Israeli conflict” and just a “barking dog”, is nothing but a weak attempt at manipulation, it is a non-argument, its childish manipulation to stop information form being circulated and plays into the hands of the Hamas terrorists and only the terrorists. If the “poster” was truly neutral as they “claim”, why the attempt to manipulate, I wonder?

And for you the atrociousness is not with Moslems dancing in the streets after 9/11 and whenever non-combatant evil Jews or Americans die at the hands of Islamic suicide bombers. Or their inherent Islamic anti-Semitism with those evil Jooo’s being the sons of apes and pigs only worthy of Islamic jihad (fighting in the cause of Allah) along with all infidels.

No, what you find atrocious is Christians believing their own doctrines, never mind that Christians don’t celebrate the death of anyone or dance in the streets or go around killing Jews.

But that is what makes anti-Semitic you the anti-Semitic hater that you are, of course I am sure you have good reason for that anti-Semitic hate and that anti-Christian hate.

Posted by: ML at January 15, 2009 10:49 AM

To add insult to injury,

I don’t blame you for having to use sockpuppets, when you make disgraceful statements like “Jesus called Peter Satan when Peter said he was the Christ”, how can you be taken seriously?

So with the sockpuppet you can start with a clean slate until you ruin it, then get a new sockpuppet and repeat.

Posted by: ML at January 15, 2009 11:49 AM

The see topic is now on the tribalism tangent, reading their comments is like watching a person wearing a straight jacket in a circular room frantically running around looking for the corner.

Posted by: ML at January 15, 2009 11:55 AM

Actually ML, that particular post was intended for timb and anybody else who’s still being entertained by all this.

As I said before, if you had a better relationship with Darleen Click she might reveal to you the geographic location of these comments, giving you the opportunity to further expand your sockpuppet conspiracy theory.

Dancing Moslems are as evil as south LA gangsters bricking hapless truck drivers in riots, and the causal dynamics are similar.

What if Christians successfully followed Jesus teachings in Gaza? Could that idea lead to a worthwhile debate?

And in closing, why get so wrapped around the axle of the 'criminality of sockpuppetry' when blogging is all about expressing and debating ideas?

Posted by: centristderangementsyndrome at January 15, 2009 01:21 PM

I really doubt many people find this entertaining.

As I said before, if you had a better relationship with Darleen Click she might reveal to you the geographic location of these comments, giving you the opportunity to further expand your sockpuppet conspiracy theory.

I already know the physical location of where the comment came from, so who cares what the actual geographical of the anus is?

There are many ways to hide IP’s or use proxies and many other methods to change divert etc...

And in closing, why get so wrapped around the axle of the 'criminality of sockpuppetry' when blogging is all about expressing and debating ideas?

And that begs the question, what can you blog about and not be a wuss?

Posted by: ML at January 15, 2009 02:06 PM

No, what you find atrocious is Christians believing their own doctrines, never mind that Christians don’t celebrate the death of anyone or dance in the streets or go around killing Jews.

Ml, read slowly if you have to, but I was referring to you, not "Christians." You are the tool who gets aroused when Arabs get bombed. Hysterically, despite my repeated and constant reminders to you that ALL religions are bunk, you continue to think that just because I know more about Islam than you do, means I like Islam.

Have you noticed how you do that? Either a person agrees with you 100% or his/her lack of purity means they favor the other side of an argument, including arguments where there is more than one side!

Not wanting dead Arab children is not the same as wanting dead Israeli children, you small-minded tool.

As for centrist
It is amazing the depths to which conservatives will go to injure themselves. I'm no fan of conservatism; in general I find it damaging to little people. Nonetheless Libertarian conservatism deserves a seat at any table, because of its inherent materialism (in other words, it's essential loyalty to rational decision making). I generally find libertarians arrive at the wrong answers, but they have VERY valid questions.

In jettisoning the libertarians, the right wing zealots, like ML or Darleen, have taken the Party right off the cliff. It's a two party system and one party rule causes corruption. As a country we need the Republicans to at least pose some threat to the Dems. The inherent racism of their rise

Posted by: timb at January 15, 2009 02:20 PM

No, what you find atrocious is Christians believing their own doctrines, never mind that Christians don’t celebrate the death of anyone or dance in the streets or go around killing Jews.

Ml, read slowly if you have to, but I was referring to you, not "Christians." You are the tool who gets aroused when Arabs get bombed.

Hysterically, despite my repeated and constant reminders to you that ALL religions are bunk, you continue to think that just because I know more about Islam than you do, means I like Islam.

Have you noticed how you do that? Either a person agrees with you 100% or his/her lack of purity means they favor the other side of an argument, including arguments where there is more than one side!

Not wanting dead Arab children is not the same as wanting dead Israeli children, you small-minded tool. Learn the difference.

And, for the last time, go read the Bible, a book you profess to rknow, but do not understand. In Matthew 4:10 Jesus tells Peter to "get Thee hence, Satan" for calling Jesus the Messiah. You should know this, but I understand that would require reading.

Posted by: timb at January 15, 2009 02:24 PM

As for centrist
It is amazing the depths to which conservatives will go to injure themselves. I'm no fan of conservatism; in general I find it damaging to little people. Nonetheless Libertarian conservatism deserves a seat at any table, because of its inherent materialism (in other words, it's essential loyalty to rational decision making). I generally find libertarians arrive at the wrong answers, but they have VERY valid questions.

In jettisoning the libertarians, the right wing zealots, like ML or Darleen, have taken the Party right off that cliff. It's a two party system and one party rule causes corruption, as we've seen in the death throes of conservatism in Washington. Nonetheless, as a country we need the Republicans to at least pose some threat to the Dems.

The inherent racism of their rise to majority status (e.g. the Southern Strategy) was never properly excised and the result is the Republicans of 2009 look like the Dixiecrats of 1948.

Unlike the Dixiecrats, the South has a lot more power than it used to due to Demographic changes, BUT, in striving to keep white voters and only being interested in "their base," the Party neglected and, even rejected, the greatest demo change to American society: Hispanic voters.

This is despite the fact that Latinos are overwhelming socially conservative and religious. Their community thrives on small businesses and entrepreneurship. They were natural Republican allies IF the Republicans could suppress their jingoism and xenophobia long enough. Instead, they drove those voters right to the Dems.

I thought they'd learn from 2006 or, even, 2008, but they continue to follow Sarah around like she's the second coming of Reagan. It must be like watching the 1980 convention when Kennedy denounced the sitting President and taking the left wing off to pout for 30 years. Just ignoring the reality of the changing of the electorate.

Posted by: timb at January 15, 2009 02:38 PM

In Matthew 4:10 Jesus tells Peter to "get Thee hence, Satan" for calling Jesus the Messiah. You should know this, but I understand that would require reading.

Posted by stupid dumb ass mother fucking asshat.

Again, the devil taketh him unto an exceeding high mountain, and showeth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them; (Matthew 4:8)
and he said unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me. (Matthew 4:9)
Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve. (Matthew 4:10)

So now the devil (Satan) is really Peter, what a dumb fucking anus asshat.

Perhaps timb should trying reading before inhaling whatever the brain destroying substance of his choice is.

Posted by: ML at January 15, 2009 02:55 PM

Ml, read slowly if you have to, but I was referring to you, not "Christians."

Accusing you of being a fundamentalist, evangelical and then listing the sins of such people is NOT accusing you of being a "domestic terrorist." You subscribe to a belief system which produces at its extremes a tendency toward violence in unstable people. Some religious fundamentalists commit violent acts. Is this news to you?

Secondly, learn basic logic. "All cats are animals" does not mean "All animals are cats."

So, as for you and Dar and Eric Rudolph: Opposition to homosexuality -- check
Belief abortion is murder -- check
Fundamentalist beliefs -- check

Why of course you are not attacking Christians only me, well I guess that depends on the time of your psychotic day, you being the intellectual stud that you are and not the completely stupid mother fucker I accuse you of being.

So what is the psycho topic this minute, I see the topic now is Dixiecrats and how republicans are just like them, but only if it was true, oh that’s right its true just because dumb ass mother fucker says so.

Posted by: ML at January 15, 2009 03:22 PM

timb,

Yeah, country/western bigotry may be a part of ‘heartland morals’. And to think that blacks used to love Republicans. I saw this at a blog once: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/66/1896_Electoral_Map.png
City folks used to like the republican message and now don’t?

Libertarianism is still too theoretical to be taken seriously. It doesn’t address all the ways liberty can be eroded by non-governmental concentrations of power, or by attacks from foreign powers, very well at all.

Plutocratic conservatism relies on tricking the tribe into believing richer is smarter and more moral. Progressive taxation becomes “wealth redistribution socialism”, instead of one way to get the bills paid without taxpayer revolt or economic collapse.

Authoritarian conservatism is an oxymoron. More laws, more cops, more military will make us more what? I thought it was supposed to be the commies who were into lotsa big uniforms and missile parades.

Pragmatic conservatism I might be able to live with – the less worrisome the times the less people want or need government interventions. But when big solutions are needed for big problems, like terrorism or the disgruntled employee releasing the self-replicating killer nanobots, pragmatic conservatism could act as a check against liberal solutions.

Posted by: centristderangementsyndrome at January 15, 2009 10:34 PM

ML,

I’ve played with more than a few conservative bloggers, some of em “legends” (well, mostly to themselves and a few exasperated opponents). You’re not as smart as Tadowe (the know-it-all), as honorable as Habu (the warrior), or as good a village watchdog as Van (the Jean-Baptiste Say cultist), but I like you.

New topic: Those Old Testament dudes were bad ass. But was Jesus just a wuss?

First God tells the Israelites to conquer Palestine by killing every breathing thing. From NIV, Deuteronomy 20:

16 However, in the cities of the nations the LORD your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes. 17 Completely destroy them—the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites—as the LORD your God has commanded you.

And they obeyed. An example of this obedience, from NIV, Joshua 6: 21

They devoted the city to the LORD and destroyed with the sword every living thing in it—men and women, young and old, cattle, sheep and donkeys.

Damn. Don’t get in the way of those Old Testament Jews if they want your stuff! Anyways, Jesus comes along and tells the Israelites to do what? Is this why Jesus is never consulted about dealing with these Palestinians? He's a wuss?

Posted by: centristderangementsyndrome at January 15, 2009 10:39 PM

centristderangementsyndrome

Ask timb your questions, as he has proven time and time again, he is the expert and at your same level!

Posted by: ML at January 16, 2009 04:30 AM

ML,
Keep on marching bro! Maybe half the fun never knowing where you're gonna wind up?

timb,
Maybe "conservative" is a preference for the Old Testament ways of fire, conquest and brimstone, while "liberal" prefers the New Testament ways of peace and love until fire, conquest and brimstone happens?

Posted by: centristderangementsyndrome at January 16, 2009 10:44 AM

centristderangementsyndrome

What’s the point of discussing anything, when a refute or point is made you will ignore it and just travel onto yet another topic.

Its pointless and wussy trollishness.

Posted by: ML at January 16, 2009 11:13 AM

What’s the point of discussing anything, when a refute or point is made you will ignore it and just travel onto yet another topic.

Here’s a quick sampling of ML’s definition of “refute”, culled from his comments during my brief time here:

I wonder what the requirement to join that club is?

In timb’s case its; sometimes you’re the underwear and sometimes you’re the skid-mark.

What a douche bag and it exhibits the same stupidity that timb displays, maybe a sockpuppet or maybe a friend, birds of a feather flock together.

Sorry, just being a wuss again, now I would rather be a wuss then this douche bag poster who shills for these people and their inbred Islamic Jew hatred.

You must have mistaken me for someone who gives a fuck.

So somehow that comment refuted my accusations of you being a shill for Hamas, you are really timb’s sockpuppet and you being hypocrite beside being a fraud who doesnt understand the meaning of words?

But that is what makes anti-Semitic you the anti-Semitic hater that you are, of course I am sure you have good reason for that anti-Semitic hate and that anti-Christian hate.

I really doubt many people find this entertaining.

I already know the physical location of where the comment came from, so who cares what the actual geographical of the anus is?

Feel free to target any of my refutations. I will surely find this entertaining.

Posted by: centristderangementsyndrome at January 16, 2009 11:32 AM

On a more serious note,
...from a place where pragmatic ideas are allowed: http://www.allthingsbeautiful.com/

“Hamas militants need the violent clashes. It's what they do. It's their day job, paid for through myriad and seedy channels by Iran, under the general auspice of 'Holy War'.”

“In Iran, President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad threatens that the battle over Palestine is "the prelude of the battle of Islam with the world of arrogance", the world of the West.”

“The real conflict is Iran-Syria against Egypt-Saudi Arabia. Islamists are seeking to conquer the region from Arab nationalists. Radical groups are not interested in happy homelands but jihad and genocide.”

Not bad, for a conservative. She avoids the usual ‘Palestinians are all scum, Islam is evil’ black and white tripe and sticks with her point.

But I disagree that any Islamic movement could ever realistically hope to make it past the governments, corporations, culture and populations of North and South America, Europe, China, Japan, Russia, India... OTOH, they could do some pretty major senseless damage to innocent civilian populations. The key is acting with intelligent precision and finishing whatever surgery is required to remove the disease from within Islamic countries, not pretending to be a warrior.

Posted by: centristderangementsyndrome at January 16, 2009 11:35 AM

centrist, I agree. The followers of Jesus have long misunderstood most of what he said. Dostoevsky wrote that if Jesus ever came baack, the first people in line to kill him would be the Christians. Most evangelicals I know (and my family is full of them) would give any Biblical Pharisee a run for his money (certainly, there are exceptions: certainly the uncle who gave the embezzling church secretary a second chance is much more in line with forgiveness and second chances than my uncle who refused to attend my sister's second marriage on the grounds he doesn't hang out with divorcees).

At any rate, Darleen, our darling host, is a Pharisee


Posted by: timb at January 16, 2009 11:40 AM

Damn. Don’t get in the way of those Old Testament Jews if they want your stuff! Anyways, Jesus comes along and tells the Israelites to do what? Is this why Jesus is never consulted about dealing with these Palestinians? He's a wuss?

I am not sure what the question truly is or what you are attempting to elude to.
I don’t understand what you mean when you say, “Jesus tells the Israelis what”?
He told them many, many things and corrected them on many, many things. So you will have to be more specific.
“Palestinians” as certain Arabs are considered today did not exist at the time of Jesus so how could he have been consulted about it?

Posted by: ML at January 16, 2009 12:50 PM

Those quotes while correct are out of context, when given the proper context such as when directed at “timb” most maybe not all are completely understandable.

Posted by: ML at January 16, 2009 12:58 PM

timb,
I dunno much about Darleen Click, or Marcotte for that matter, but anybody who’s willing to host my ramblings is a good enough American for me!

Dostoevsky..., tell me about it. A few days after 911 I had to fly to LA for my grandmother’s funeral. My in-law had to listen to me rant about how our B-52s were going to seal 911 assholes into their caves, etc.. His opinions mostly involved candle light vigils and other confused peacenik Christian talk.

This last Christmas, after I ranted about our inability to seal 911 assholes into their caves after 7 years, he attacked two ministers I’d perceived as having strongly Christ-like values, as “loony liberals”, insinuating that my questioning the success of Bush administration policies was also “loony liberal.”

Posted by: centristderangementsyndrome at January 16, 2009 01:20 PM

ML,
I can relate to Jews wanting to take back their promised land - they’re simply following Gods instruction. I don’t necessarily agree with the mandate, methods or results, but I understand the logic. It is a major part of their religion and heritage.

But “Christian” (meaning follower of Christ), as far as I know, has nothing to do with taking out Palestinians or those formerly known as Palestinians. I can’t find anything in these New Testament search engines refering to Christ telling his people to assist the Jews in taking back Palestine. Therefore, I present three questions, because I cannot answer them myself:

1. Jesus comes along and tells the Israelites to do what? (I see all this talk about peace and love and father but nothing about kicking Roman or Palestinian ass, let alone the individual’s right to democratic representation and liberty in that land.)

2. Is this why Jesus is never consulted about dealing with these Palestinians? (I don’t see Christians ever quoting Christ regarding American policies in Israel. I am clueless as to what Christ might be thinking about all this.)

3. He's a wuss? (If Jesus didn’t preach kicking Roman or Palestinian ass, I don’t understand what most Christians think they’re doing by getting so involved in all this.)

Posted by: centristderangementsyndrome at January 16, 2009 01:49 PM

centristderangementsyndrome

Your understand of Jewish and Christian doctrine, is poor to non-existent.
Your understand of what a “Palestinian” is, is also non-existent.
Its just stupid to call the ancient Canaanite’s “Palestianians”, but you making shit up doesn’t come as a surprise to me.

You try to allude that Judeo-Christian doctrine says Jews and Christians are to rollover and play dead when attacked, which is bunkum and I am sure disappointing to you and the Moslems terrorist you are shilling for.

You also then allude that Israeli cannot protect herself and her mandate is based upon this or that history recorded in the Old Testament, yet these Jews are nowhere to be found.
I cant find groups of Jews going around killing Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites and quoting Old Testament scripture to justify their actions.
The same thing can not be said about Moslems, which do kill Jews while quoting the Qur’an as justification.

Posted by: ML at January 16, 2009 05:52 PM

inarticulate, wrong, and half-witted. Par for the course, ML. Centrist quoted Scripture as to God telling the Israelites to murder every living thing in the Canaanite cities they captured...Jericho being the best example. For God's sake, ML, peruse Joshua.*

*As you recall, archaeology has actually shown those events did not happen like that; Jericho itself wasn't even built when it was supposedly attacked.

Your cute Arab hatred aside, Christians used to and still do ask God for blessing all the time before attacking everybody. In fact, it is common no matter who religious people fighting: Christians always ask God's blessing and claim God is with them when they attack faithless, other religious folks, or even other Christians.

At the Battle of Cajamarca, Pizarro's priest ordered the Inca king to convert to Christianity. When he didn't, the priest proclaimed that the King had rejected God, was an infidel, and absolved them of the slaughter to come. The 168 Spaniard/Christians killed an estimated 80,000 unarmed or lightly armed Incans in one day! All the while claiming God blessed them and wanted it to happen.

As usual, ML, the difference between you and a member of Hamas is more in choice of enemies and not method or motivation.

Do you know anything? Could you read a book....any book? Hell, read the Bible even.

Posted by: timb at January 16, 2009 08:38 PM

As usual, ML, the difference between you and a member of Hamas is more in choice of enemies and not method or motivation.

Exactly, my writing and expressing my disgust of Hamas and their acts is the same as their murderous acts.

Wow, who knew?

Posted by: ML at January 16, 2009 11:08 PM

ML,
I didn’t allude to much of anything. I simply asked questions, and admitted to ignorance regarding Christianity. I challenged you to provide answers. You simply responded with judgment criticizing the ignorance I admitted to, then didn’t provide any answers or Biblical backup.

timb,
I’ve noticed that there are a fair number of reverse trolls, so to speak, out there. They purposely pose as loyal idiots – I assume their motive is to dumb down the debate within the tribe they’re trying to infect. And then I’ve seen a fair number of true idiots, who substitute judgment, namecalling, and unswerving stubbornness to an ideology, for the intelligence which they can never possess. Worse, there are those cases where those who wish to learn thru debate cannot tell the difference, and waste time corresponding with them. Lesson learned.

Posted by: centristderangementsyndrome at January 17, 2009 12:38 PM

1. I see nothing where Jesus says rollover play dead or that you are forbidden from fighting back or protecting yourself or you are forbidden for living in a representative democracy which has liberty as its foundation.
Matter of fact Jesus Himself is for liberty, He forces nothing upon you, you can only accept Him out of your own freewill which is the essence of liberty and freedom.

2. That question suggests you have already arrived at a conclusion, which has already been answered in reply 1.
I am sure your history of mythical “Palestine” and the true history are completely different.

3.You alone made the “wuss” claims about the Israeli conflict, so this question is directed toward yourself, which is really strange.

Posted by: ML at January 17, 2009 02:52 PM

Jesus is for liberty, but not peace? We call him "lord," because he's really a secret democrat? King's claimed divine right, because of the election they just won? When the Jewish people asked him what they should do about Caesar, the Emperor/king, Jesus said to "give to Caesar what is Caesar's". He did not say overthrow him and set up a democrat assembly!

He did, however, say those who live by the sword will die by it. He did tell his disciples to put away their swords in Gethsemane. He did restore the ear of the injured Centurion. He did say in the Sermon on the Mount "Blessed are the peacemakers." Jesus never advocated liberty; he advocated love and understanding and empathy and peace. That's why people liked him...then and now.

ML, I've recently started to feel sorry for you, since you clearly don't understand what people type. At forst I thought it was deliberate, like the way a JD or Pablo intentionally mis-reads a comment, but I have recently come to understand you are just not smart enough to understand symbolic speech or analogy or allusions. You are just too illiterate.

Here's one least try to educate you. The Jewish settler Baruch Goldstein broke into prayer one Friday in 1994 and murdered 29 Palestinians with his IDF Reserve issued weapon. Later Israeli settlers erected a monument to this terrorist and right wing nutjobs still visit to pay their respects.

A Hamas suicide bomber walked into a pizza parlor some years later, exploded himself, and killed dozens of innocents. Hamas members and many Palestinians declared him a hero.

If you can allege those two people are substantively different from each other, then you're dumber than I thought. Both those people are representative of the morons driving the Israeli incursion into Gaza: nutty dickheads firing rockets into villages and attempting to murder families versus the nutty dickheads who just killed over families but DIDN'T stop the rockets falling (8 of them fell why Olmert was explaining his cease fire.

Your love of dead Arabs equals the Arabs love of dead Israelis. That's why you're the same, because you target anyone on "the other side."

One wonders what you saw in the military. What could make a man think complex problems are simple? That all Palestinians are wrong and all Israelis are right. What could make a person not know Jesus, the Prince of Peace, favored peace over war?

What makes you so crazy, ml?

Posted by: timb at January 17, 2009 11:19 PM

Timb
I think up-thread here you showed us your Biblical prowess once again.
And displayed your prowess of reason, comprehension logic, ect...

Posted by: ML at January 18, 2009 11:09 AM

You stupid prick, I quoted Matthew 4:10 and you could not dispute it. You quoted an entirely different verse and made a totally fraudulent conclusion. I ignored since there were so many other things you were wrong about. Don't tell me I can't read. Go to your un-opened Bible and flip to Matthew 4:10.

jesus, you're an idiot

Posted by: timb at January 18, 2009 03:41 PM

You stupid anal retentive retarded moron, lets rehash for your stupid ass:

In Matthew 4:10 Jesus tells Peter to "get Thee hence, Satan" for calling Jesus the Messiah. You should know this, but I understand that would require reading. Posted by stupid dumb ass mother fucking asshat.AKA Posted by: timb at January 15, 2009 02:24 PM

Again, the devil taketh him unto an exceeding high mountain, and showeth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them; (Matthew 4:8)
and he said unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me. (Matthew 4:9)
Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve. (Matthew 4:10)

So now the devil (Satan) is really Peter, what a dumb fucking anus asshat.

Perhaps timb should trying reading before inhaling whatever the brain destroying substance of his choice is.

Posted by: ML at January 15, 2009 02:55 PM

Satan, Peter, who knows who cares,
You have shown your prowess in all things more than once.

Posted by: ML at January 18, 2009 04:58 PM

And I should add to the above, if you cannot get that right, then really what else can you get right?

It’s a rhetorical question.

Posted by: ML at January 18, 2009 05:13 PM

Stupid google....gave me the cite to the wrong instance. I meant 16:23.

I finally understand my you quoted that "non-sense." > You've won this one, ML >

Really not disappearing, but did want to acknowledge you were right and I was wrong on the cite. Will check google cites more closely.

Posted by: timb at January 18, 2009 06:54 PM

I hate to smack you down yet again, well I guess at this point it goes without saying.

(Matthew 16:16)
And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.
(Matthew 16:17)
And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Bar-Jonah: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father who is in heaven.
(Matthew 16:18)
And I also say unto thee, that thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it.
(Matthew 16:19)
I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven; and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
(Matthew 16:20)
Then charged he the disciples that they should tell no man that he was the Christ.
(Matthew 16:21)
From that time began Jesus to show unto his disciples, that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and the third day be raised up.
(Matthew 16:22)
And Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall never be unto thee.
(Matthew 16:23)
But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art a stumbling-block unto me: for thou mindest not the things of God, but the things of men.

So this is not as you claim either, but your prowess in all things has been readily apparent.

Posted by: ML at January 18, 2009 08:12 PM

In the spirit of our brave new bipartisan beginning, may I suggest taking a timeout for a group hug? I saw this inventive style on a support website once. Here we go:

(((((timb+centristderangementsymdrome+ML)))))

There. Now didn’t that feel good?

I knew you’d like it.

Posted by: centristderangementsyndrome at January 19, 2009 10:43 PM

That did feel good. Why did ML give my butt cheek a squeeze?

Posted by: timb at January 20, 2009 07:08 AM

Uh... heh. Maybe we'll get into passive aggressive latency issues some other time.

Posted by: centristderangementsyndrome at January 22, 2009 10:03 AM

Darleen thinks the longer she stays away, the less likely it is that Josh and I will be here when she returns.

I can't quit you, Dar, you god-bothering, voodoo economics loving, care less about the poor, filled with hate toward Dems, believe Republicans passed the Civil Rights bill kook. I'll be here to ridicule you.

Posted by: timb at January 22, 2009 03:12 PM

Wow. You guys have been doing yeoman's work while I was away to watch the coronation of our new Messiah. Now that he's President I'm sure Darleen will lay off attacking him since as we know, to criticize the President in wartime is no to support the troops.

Darleen's hopes are in vain, timb, though I fear she may just abandon this blog entirely. It must be much more tempting to post exclusively over where there an amen chorus of idiots and a ban-happy mod.

Posted by: Josh at January 22, 2009 09:35 PM

Calling Goldstein ban happy is like saying Stalin didn't to be told he was wrong. That's a website where a commenter just yesterday threatened to "double his ammunition," if there are criminal investigations of Bush administration figures. Dar loves it over there. When making non-sequitors here, she will be fried. If she does that there, she'll be lauded. And, nothing, nothing, gets Darleen more worked up than when black people accuse white people of stuff. They love that stuff on Protein Wisdom.

ML would love protein wisdom. Aggressively angry white guys are just welcome there; they're celebrated and held up as an ideal.

Posted by: timb at January 23, 2009 07:31 AM

Damn the only way to ruin an over-the-top analogy is to forget words! Way to get so clever, Tim!

Should read "...Stalin didn't like to be told" With that correction, the laughter may commence.

Posted by: timb at January 23, 2009 08:11 AM

I read PW but do not post comments, I post sometimes at Patterico under this same nic.

I read Jihadwatch and Dhimmiwatch although I rarely post there anymore, and my nic there is different than here.

I mostly post at LGF2 under my Jihadwatch nic.

Posted by: ML at January 23, 2009 05:00 PM

I should mention you don’t want to go to LGF2

Because there I am one of the administrators!

Posted by: ML at January 24, 2009 10:24 PM

I also post as Ballslicker at queersighted.com and use The Candyman Can nic at NAMBLA.org.

Just in case any of you assholes ever feel like going that way.

Posted by: ML at January 25, 2009 12:19 AM

Posted by: ML at January 25, 2009 12:19 AM

Is not the same ML

Posted by: ML at January 25, 2009 08:52 AM

Why would I EVER go to Little Green Footballs 2? I mean, one can clearly get his fill of stupid from the main. site. Why would I visit any moon orbiting Stupid. Further WHACKED out than LGF? Wow, so unnecessary

Posted by: timb at January 25, 2009 05:27 PM