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October 12, 2007

Nobel 'Peace' Prize honors a religion

The Church of Anthropogenic Global Warming was honored today with the announcement that Pope Gore won the Nobel

"We face a true planetary emergency," [Pope Gore] said in a statement. "The climate is not a political issue, it is a moral and spiritual challenge to all of humanity."
"not a political issue" my ass.

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Posted by Darleen at October 12, 2007 06:58 AM

Comments

Gore is wrong, it is a political issue. Conservative ideologues insist on politicizing a lot of scientific issues these days.

Posted by: Josh at October 12, 2007 08:54 AM

MWAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

Oh and Josh, it's not science, bud. It's PSEUDOscience.

Posted by: caltechgirl at October 12, 2007 10:33 AM

I suspect Al Gore is more or less right. Everything—rising world temperatures, intensifying storms, curious weather changes, a receding arctic ice pack, the increase in the production of greenhouse gases—is conveying a pretty sharp impression of something being just not right.

Take the arctic areas. Owing to increasing temperatures, arctic ice formation during the recent winters has been far lower than in past years. There's some evidence now that the Northwest Passage in Canada might become a reality in the near future. Increasing temperatures mean less ice formation around arctic areas. This means that more of the sun's radiation is absorbed on the remaining dark surfaces of the planet--thus tending to increase global temperatures still more. You could get what amounts to a runaway train effect and God knows where it might end. Perhaps that train has already gone beyond the point of any human control.

Of course more scientific study is necessary, but the physical phenomena are present for everyone to see. And they’re a little scary.

Posted by: Carl W. Goss at October 12, 2007 10:42 AM

Congratulations to Pope Gore. He deserves the honor.

And to echo another Josh, Josh Marshall, "the greatest step for world peace would simply have been for Gore not to have had the presidency stolen from him in November 2000."

Yes. you Right Wing blowhards hate Gore in large part because you know deep down the inconvenient truth of that.

Posted by: Brad at October 12, 2007 10:50 AM

Saying something doesn't make it true, caltechgirl. Neither does all caps.

Posted by: Josh at October 12, 2007 11:07 AM

Josh

caltech knows science

and what Pope Gore is peddling isn't.

Indeed, a recent court decision in Britain clearly states that Gore's "Inconvenient Truths" is nothing more than a religious polemic and thus students must be warned if it is shown in class.

Posted by: Darleen at October 12, 2007 12:29 PM

Brad

When you start with a lie, why should anyone ever give you credibility?

Posted by: Darleen at October 12, 2007 12:30 PM

Carl

I don't dispute that world may be experiencing weather shifts

Guess what? It's normal. Greenland has been warmer in the past, then frozen, now warming again.

But MAN as "the" cause of it? AGW???

that's just snort worthy

Posted by: Darleen at October 12, 2007 12:32 PM

Darleen,

It makes me sad to have to tell you this, but it is a fact now undisputed by scientists around the world that global warming is caused by human activity. I could link to a dozen different reports, including the U.S. National Academy of Sciences and the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, but A) you seem convinced that a British court has more credibility than recent findings by climatologists, and B) I am confident that would not not only refuse to read a single report but that you have made up your mind already, because you simply hate the fact that a Democratic politician was right about something.

Posted by: Brad at October 12, 2007 12:49 PM

caltech knows "science"? What does that even mean? Is she an expert in all scientific fields? I have a BA in chemistry and biochemistry, do I know "science" too?

Posted by: Josh at October 12, 2007 01:28 PM

Brad,

Global warming is, in fact, disputed by some scientists.

Posted by: John at October 12, 2007 02:02 PM

John,

Name them, and where they work.

Posted by: Brad at October 12, 2007 03:28 PM

I guess global warming is responsible for the record ice pack this year in Antarctica.

http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2007/10/antarctica-ice-cap-growth-reaches.html

Posted by: Boss429 at October 13, 2007 09:33 AM

1) Tim Ball, Climatologist and Prof Emeritus of Geography at the University of Winnipeg

2) John Christy, Professor and Director of the Earth System Science Center, NSSTC University of Alabama

3) Roy Spencer, principal research scientist for the University of Alabama at Huntsville and senior scientist for climate studies at NASA's Marshall Space Flight Center in Huntsville.

Posted by: HughS at October 13, 2007 02:05 PM

Brad

2:09 above is for your 3:28 query. My intro was left off.

Posted by: HughS at October 13, 2007 02:07 PM

Its pretty arrogant to think the we humans have power over the universe.

Look how well we do against mother natures furry in say .... a tsunami or hurricane.

Posted by: beth at October 14, 2007 11:34 AM

Does anyone else here get tired of the leftist's constant demand for sources and vetting? Leftists never seem to be able to complete their argument, and subsequently fall back on the demand for sources and then disappear.

Posted by: HughS at October 14, 2007 06:24 PM

Hugh,

I guess I'm not allowed to challenge any Right Wing assertions that come without citations?

Thanks for your response by the way. I stand by my original statement that global warming is undisputed -- by the vast majority of world scientists who have studied it. Of course there are always dissenters and that's what makes science so important: findings are constantly tested by other scientists. When challenges to scientific findings do not stand up over time, then more scientists come to universal conclusions, and that is in a nutshell what has happened with the global warming debate.

Of course this doesn't stop factions outside of science -- I mean corporations- from spending $ to dispute the consensus. At one time the cigarette manufacturers did this: they got their own scientists to dispute that smoking caused lung cancer. Actual scientists disputed the findings of a majority of other scientists that pointed to a direct causal link, and this went on for years.

In fact I think your man Tim Ball is funded by Exxon. And your #3, Roy Spencer believes in Intelligent Design. So it goes.

Did I complete my argument?


Posted by: Brad at October 15, 2007 10:33 AM

Brad
No, you didn't complete your argument, but you did add qualifying language to your originnal assertion:


"It makes me sad to have to tell you this, but it is a fact now undisputed by scientists around the world that global warming is caused by human activity.: Posted by: Brad at October 12, 2007 12:49 PM

"I stand by my original statement that global warming is undisputed -- by the vast majority of world scientists who have studied it"
Posted by: Brad at October 15, 2007 10:33 AM

That Ball is funded by Exxon proves nothing but a reflexive cynnicism and Spencer's embrace of intelligent design makes him ...what? A creationist nut? Even Einstein engaged thoughtfully in the debate over intelligent design.

I won't paint with your broad brush (see statement 1).

Posted by: HughS at October 15, 2007 02:09 PM

Einstein said that God doesn't play dice. Is that engaging in debate on ID?

Give me a break.

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