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November 14, 2006

My grandparents voted Democrat

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(thanks to LindaSoG)

Posted by Darleen at November 14, 2006 09:03 PM

Comments

I got one: My grandparents voted Republican, and all I got was waterboarded!

Posted by: Josh at November 14, 2006 11:57 PM

Josh

Correct me if I'm wrong ... but where did any Republicans say that everyone in the world would be waterboarded?

In contrast to the reams and reams of speeches, writings, videos, etc, put out by the Islamists that yes, indeed, they ARE pursuing worldwide Islamic state with Sharia replacing all "manmade" law? Surely, you already see great consessions to Islamism within Europe. Thailand is bending over. Indonesia is grappling with it.

Now, for Pelosi, our front against radical Islam in Iraq is not "war" but a "situation".

Maybe not two generations, but unless the Dems step up to the plate and PROVE wrong the cheers from the Islamists at their win, America will go Islam only one generation behind Europe.

You're usually a bit more clever.

Sore winner?

Posted by: Darleen at November 15, 2006 06:27 AM

Correct me if I'm wrong, but where did Democrats say everyone in the world would be wearing burkhas?

I'd say my comment is somewhat less ridiculous than the image, since many Republicans do in fact advocate waterboarding, whereas I haven't seen any Democrats advocate burkha-ization.

Posted by: Josh at November 15, 2006 07:14 AM

I haven't seen any Democrats advocate burkha-ization.

Show us the Democrats who are speaking out against radical Islam. Whether the Democrats push for it or fail to take action against it, the outcome is the same.

Posted by: VRWC drone at November 15, 2006 09:19 AM

Show us the Democrats who are speaking out against radical Islam. Whether the Democrats push for it or fail to take action against it, the outcome is the same.

How stupid. Show me the Republicans who are speaking out against punching babies. If you can't then Republicans must be in favor of punching babies.

But you asked, so I'm happy to oblige:

http://blog.thedemocraticdaily.com/?p=1340

So we are caught in a cauldron of religious struggle where today there is no center of moral authority that forcefully condemns those who murder in the name of Islam....We must work with moderate Muslims, especially clerics, to permanently discredit the belief that the murder of innocents can be justified in the name of God, race, or nation.

John Kerry, 12/8/05, Speech to the CFR.

Try harder next time.

Posted by: Josh at November 15, 2006 11:21 AM

How stupid. Show me the Republicans who are speaking out against punching babies. If you can't then Republicans must be in favor of punching babies.

Stupid indeed. Are you saying then that the American people vote politicians into office based on the expectation that they will be punching babies, and that if they fail to punch babies it means they are not fulfilling their duties and should be voted out of office? Substitute "take appropriate action to defend this country" for "punching babies" and it might actually mean something. Try again.

John Kerry, 12/8/05, Speech to the CFR.

Sorry, my mistake, I should have clarified my request... show us a Democrat who is actually in office (or who has a chance in hell of being back in office) who would therefore be in a position to actually do something about the threat that radical Islam poses.

Posted by: VRWC drone at November 15, 2006 01:22 PM

Stupid indeed. Are you saying then that the American people vote politicians into office based on the expectation that they will be punching babies, and that if they fail to punch babies it means they are not fulfilling their duties and should be voted out of office?

This is moot now, because I've provided the requested quote, but I'll play along. I'm suggesting that the American people vote politicians into office based on the expectation that they will neither bunch babies nor advocate/allow burkha-ization. And just as a failure to condemn baby-punching is not equivalent to baby-punching advocacy, neither is a failure to condemn burhkas equivalent to burkha advocacy. Hope that helps.


Sorry, my mistake, I should have clarified my request... show us a Democrat who is actually in office (or who has a chance in hell of being back in office) who would therefore be in a position to actually do something about the threat that radical Islam poses.

I could be wrong, but for some reason I impression that Senator from Massachusetts is, in fact, an office of the government of the United States. Do you need a link to the Senate web site?

Posted by: Josh at November 15, 2006 02:25 PM

Iraq is a diversion. As the army attacks Iraq, the US gov't erodes rights at home by suspending habeas corpus, stealing private lands, banning books like "America Deceived" from Amazon, rigging elections, conducting warrantless wiretaps and starting 2 illegal wars based on lies. Soon, another US false-flag operation will occur (sinking of an Aircraft Carrier) and the US will invade Iran, (on behalf of Israel).
Final link (before Google Books bends to gov't demands and censors the title):
America Deceived (book)

Posted by: 5th of November at November 16, 2006 05:31 AM

My mistake. For some reason I thought Kerry's term was up in 2006 and that he was one of the ones who lost last Tuesday. I guess we have to wait another 2 years.

I've provided the requested quote

I read Kerry's speech and I have to say as a criticism it's pretty weak. He never directly addresses radical Islam, all we get are statements about "an internal struggle in the Islamic World" and how it is "fundamentally a war within Islam for the heart and soul of Islam", and that we must support the moderates to "discredit the belief that the murder of innocents can be justified in the name of God, race, or nation". That's it. Nothing about sharia law, or any mention of how radical Islam is a threat to threat to the west and America. In contrast, he has plenty of criticism for Bush and the Republicans in there. Reading this speech, you're left wondering who he thinks is the bigger threat.

This speech by Democrat Joe Biden is a much better effort:

"Simply put, the radical fundamentalists seek to kill our citizens in great numbers, to disrupt our economy and to reshape the international order. They would take the world backwards, replacing freedom with fear and hope with hatred. If they were to acquire nuclear weapons, the threat they pose could literally become existential.

So the President is right that we cannot and will not retreat. We will defeat the enemies of freedom and progress."

He does go on the crticize Bush's handling of the war itself, but he at least demonstrates that he understands the seriousness of the threat.

But Joe Biden is the only Democrat I could readily find.

Posted by: VRWC drone at November 16, 2006 06:54 AM

I knew an Iranian guy who claimed that under many Burkhas was Victoria’s Secret..

I also knew a San Franciscan who loved getting wrapped in plastic and beaten with a stick..

*crickets*

Alms for the centrist trolls?

Posted by: americafirst at November 19, 2006 06:53 PM