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June 01, 2006
Slip of the tongue? Yeah, sure, uh huh
only when a Dem does it.
NEW YORK -- State Comptroller Alan Hevesi publicly apologized Thursday for a "beyond dumb" remark about "putting a bullet between the president's eyes."Refresh my memory, but as virulent as the anti-Clinton sentiments were from fringe rightwingers, I cannot recall ONE Republican elected official in any capacity calling for the President's assassination.Hevesi hastily called a mea culpa press conference hours after putting his foot in his mouth at the Queens College commencement.
(h/t Michelle Malkin)
Posted by Darleen at June 1, 2006 01:13 PM
Comments
Did you even read the article? He didn't call for anything. He was describing Chuck Schumer's fervency. Malkin, partisan hack that she is, didn't quote the videotape where that was made clear. So your challenge doesn't make any sense.
Hevesi's comment seems about equivalent to Jesse Helms (a senator, not some state comptroller nobody's heard of) saying that Clinton would need a body guard if he came near military bases in NC. Helms, unlike Hevesi, didn't see fit to apologize.
Posted by: Josh at June 1, 2006 02:48 PM
Josh
"put a bullet between the president's eyes if he could get away with it" doesn't even approach figurative. It describes fervency? Please give me some source of this colloquialism. Please give me examples were "putting a bullet between the eyes" is, or was, an oft used phrase to describe fervency.
And he didn't say it in private, he said it at a commencement.
Do you think I excuse Helms remark or accept the "just joking" bit? No. And let's recall that the shoot from the lip Helms story was not buried on page 25 on a Friday in a couple of papers but was close to front page news for days. Remember it was fellow Republicans that forced Lott to resign, while Byrd is forever feted and coddled.
Posted by: Darleen at June 1, 2006 05:53 PM
Its the same old condescending arrogance of the left. "Its doesn't matter what we say, or how we say it bcause..... well because we're enherently right!"
In case it's missed the attention of any living breathing person in North America, or even the English speaking world, the left bears not a snipit of responsibility for anything. It's simply not in their dictionaries.
If he would have made the same statement in Britain he might well be sitting in the slammer right now.
My own reading of something like this is that it tends to happen whenever a Liberal loses control of that deep hatred he/she feels toward the "opposition", and that go's for any opposition, not just Conservatives.
- We've all seen how the "New Left" reacts when one of their own switches side's, or even ventures a counter argument to one of their screeds. You'd think the person had just murdered someone. The intensity of the venum is remarkable, and not a sign of healthy thinking.
Posted by: Big Bang Hunter at June 1, 2006 09:20 PM
In all fairness though I have to admit the man seemed sincerely contrite, and I certainly believe it was zeal, not any inimical intention, that led him to utter such a thing.
- Incidently Josh, Malkin did not say anything to add too his comments, she merely posted what he said at the news conference. I think the left hates her simply because shes very effective at exposing their duplicity and fecklessness when their make glaring errors, or step over even the boundries of partisanship.
- If you want to see intolorance, bigotry, and racism, just read some of the vitriolic and foul-mouthed vicious emails they've sent her.
- Shes none of those rotten names. Shes a very hardwoking wife and mother, and a dedicated writer, and newscaster with strong political views. I've yet to see her ever level anything like that sort of language at, or in response to, her attackers in all the time I've been reading her posts. Her restraint is actually remarkable.
Posted by: Big Bang Hunter at June 1, 2006 09:40 PM
You guys should really read the quote from the videotape transcript rather than Malkin's excerpt, misleadingly excerpted to remove the context that would make clear it wasn't a call for Bush's assassination. He was describing Schumer's committment to the party. He used an offensive metaphor, for which he soon apologized. It wasn't a call to violence. Who cares if his metaphor is original or not?
You asked for a simlar quote from a sitting Republican official. I provided one. Trent Lott is completely irrelevant. This isn't about Trent Lott or how super-great Michelle Malkin is. Try to stay on point here, guys.
Posted by: Josh at June 2, 2006 06:46 AM
Josh....I'm really not intending to nit pick here....but honestly.... how can you take "put a bullet between Bush's eyes if he got the chance" out of context. I'm really curious.
- Political/moral equivalency is one of the modern plagues of humanity. Thats how the moonbats get from 0.01% to “all the military" in the Hidatha story.
- Just the same I’m hard put to remember ANY Conservative Politician EVER making a statement about “putting a bullet between the eyes” of a sitting president, or any president or any other official for that matter. At some point something needs to be done to tone down the crazyness of the left, and some of their equally crazy public statements.
- What makes the outreageous comment even more eggregious, and stupid, is that he preceded it with “…[how] do I say this diplomatically…". The Left really needs to get some common sense, or theres going to start to be some repercussions, and I can’t say they don’t deserve it.
Posted by: Big Bang Hunter at June 2, 2006 03:20 PM
how can you take "put a bullet between Bush's eyes if he got the chance" out of context.
Easy. Just do what Malkin did here. "Chuck Schumer is such a fighter for the Democrats he'd put a bullet between Bush's eyes if he got the chance." Contrast with "I'd give him a million dollars to put a bullet between Bush's eyes if he got the chance." One's a call for violence, the other's an offensive metaphor to describe Chuck Schumer's partisanship.
And you are nitpicking, if you don't see the similarity between Hevesi's statement and Helms' about Clinton needing a bodyguard.
As for your predictions about "repercussions" for the left, Rightists are at their weakest politically since the Clinton years. The American people don't like your President and they don't like your Congress, so there isn't anybody to deliver these feared "repercussions." You guys are all hat and no cattle, not unlike your lame-duck Prez.
Posted by: Josh at June 2, 2006 04:39 PM
- Actually Josh, there is. The electorate. For all the same reasons the Left seems to think that "I'm not Bush" is a winner, which is a colossal, if self-serving mistake you may cling too, thinking the hateful, anti-American pony act for the past 6 years has gone unnoticed, is the same mistake, just a different aspect.
- Many of us centrists, and Conservatives have big problems with Bush, on many of the issues. That's a world of difference from being willing to
turn over the reins of Government to the sort of people that espouse "All Socialism - All the time". Those two things are not at all the same, and the fact you think so is why you'll probably lose again.
Posted by: Big Bang Hunter at June 2, 2006 05:04 PM
"Us centrists" - it is to laugh. Democrats = hateful, anti-American socialists. Sounds more like a Bircher than a centrist.
Posted by: Josh at June 2, 2006 05:38 PM
- Ahh... the Marxist/"elitist" creedo of "perjoratively Labeling" to silence opposition. Old tricks from the New Left.
- Juat the same, I think if your party go's to the election, running on the "I'm not Bush" meme, you will have some more sad days ahead.
Posted by: Big Bang Hunter at June 2, 2006 06:16 PM
- As I said in an earlier post, the Left has to follow an all out assualt on the entire WOT program, or face yet another round of loses if they can’t marginalize things. As it stands, so far they just look weak, with the cut and run memes of their various leaders. Bad situation they’ll try to remedy by stepping up the rhetoric to a fevor pitch. Pretty transparent, and not nearly as effective as in the past, prior to the advent of the internet, and high speed communications.
- A lie is followed right out the door with the truth these days, instead of lies leading by miles and days. Perceptions still count, but lies/propaganda can only mimic truth for a very short time, unfortunately for the left, so they tend to not carry the day anymore. In a world of hard facts, the left is in a alien landscape, and a world of hurt.
Posted by: Big Bang Hunter at June 2, 2006 06:33 PM
In a world of hard facts, the left is in a alien landscape, and a world of hurt.
"Hard facts"? There isn't a single fact in any statements you made on this topic, Bigus Bangus Hunter. Your entire rant was (as usual) to slam the Left with the broadest possible brush strokes: let's see, "the same old condescending arrogance of the left"..."The intensity of the venum is remarkable, and not a sign of healthy thinking"...the Left is "intolerant," "racist"..."No common sense..."...and Josh, who engaged you in an extremely reasonable debate is a "Marxist/elitist"...and meanwhile, Malkin is the epitome of "restraint." No facts here. Just bullshit.
Posted by: Brad at June 2, 2006 08:13 PM
thinking the hateful, anti-American pony act for the past 6 years...turn over the reins of Government to the sort of people that espouse "All Socialism - All the time"
Hmmm...
the Marxist/"elitist" creedo of "perjoratively Labeling" to silence opposition
Didn't know you were a Marxist/"elitist", BBH.
Posted by: Josh at June 3, 2006 12:01 PM
Here is a quote from Hitler that might intrest you" "The main plank in the National Socialistic program is to abolish the liberalistic concept of the individual and the Marxist concept of humanity and to substitute it for them the folk community, tooted in the soil and bound together by the bond of its common blood."
Posted by: blubonnet at June 3, 2006 02:22 PM
oops, above statement, last phrase was "ROOTED in the soil by its common blood."
Posted by: blubonnet at June 3, 2006 02:24 PM
- The Left HAS to demonize, and beat down the WOT. thats a fact.
- "We're not Bush" stands no chance - Bush isn't running. Thats a pretty heavy bet.
- and telling others what they think and feel is so typical Liberal arrogance. Another common fact.
- and changing the subject to deflect to avoid a losing debate, is one of the Lefts fav tricks. Also a fact.
- What among these "facts" don't you understand Brad?
Posted by: Big Bang Hunter at June 4, 2006 01:02 PM
All of you are playing mind games with yourselves. There's not a dimes worth of difference between the real hidden agenda of whichever Totalitarian manifesto you want to discuss. The only real difference between Marx's version of Socialism, and Hitlers, is who's Ox is getting gored, and who gets to be the "choosen ones".
- That's the lesson the every geberation of "Neo Socialists", regardless of what they call themselves, have to learn the hard way all over again. It wasn't the "differences" that made Fascism and Communism hate each other so much. It was the competing "sameness" and just plain jealosies. Any sane person would be hard put to decide which was the worst. Stalins 40 million dead, or Hitlers 30 million.
"SOCIALISM - 100 years of abject failure, and 100 million corpses, but still going strong!
Posted by: Big Bang Hunter at June 4, 2006 01:10 PM
BBH, you need to back your statements up with an argument or evidence. Simple repetition and rephrasing of righty cant isn't particularly convincing.
Posted by: Josh at June 5, 2006 10:02 AM