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September 23, 2005

That 70's Feminism! -- Irony challenged, too.

As I said earlier, here, the gender-feminism that arose in the 70's (as opposed to equity-feminism -- I proudly count myself as an equity feminist) is decidedly against choice. I didn't even touch upon the small elements of misandry that popup from time to time in the G-feminism rantings against their wayward, freethinking sisters.

So my morning belly laugh comes from Amanda with this pair of statements (excerpts):

The operative word here is "wife" ... the stay-at-home wife is a must-have accessory to that life ... the real truth, which is that a lot of men still put their egos into having dependent wives
Mandy makes the claim that a "dependent" wife is nothing more than an accessory -- kinda like a house keeping robot from Mercedes.
I need a man if I want some cock. I need a man if I am to have a boyfriend. I need a man to lift some furniture. [I need a man in that I need my male friends, family, coworkers, internet buds and every other man in my life I lean on or just enjoy.] What I don't need a man for is to define me or make me worthy of existence.
While she throws the line I bracketed in the statement in order to attempt to soften the rest, it's clear she is engaging in the same behavior she decries of men -- looking at their partner, not as a person but as an accessory. Mandy wants some cock, men want some pussy so why muck it up with stuff like extended families, PTA meetings, hospital visits, landscaping the yard, the million-and-one everyday tasks of marriage/family and the hardwork of actually having a meaningful relationship? And why, for heaven's sake, would anyone ever make a choice to put their kids before their career in the shortrun run?

Blame that the government doesn't provide free, "quality" daycare from the moment the infant comes home from the hospital.

Blame the Great Patriarchal Conspiracy.

But for goddess' sake, don't let men and women make their own choices about a relationship beyond cock meets pussy!

The deja vu is incredible.

Posted by Darleen at September 23, 2005 06:45 AM

Comments

Where does this leave the stay-at-home dad's I know?

Posted by: Zendo Deb at September 23, 2005 11:24 AM

This settles it, 70's feminism is dead and the elites are scared and do not know what to do.
When these girls are coming out of their colleges
and public schools and think they are full of it.

Posted by: Gary at September 23, 2005 11:33 AM

Zendo

That is what so laughable about gender-feminism -- it doesn't allow for men and women to come together and define for themselves the best relationship. Marriage AND parenting is about partners making choices...and if either parent wants to take time to stay home with the kids, or the parents decide to share the at home chores (I know both men and women who "job share" with colleagues in order to be there for the kids), the choice is theirs.

Posted by: Darleen at September 23, 2005 12:35 PM

I'm old enough have seen many different philosophies on relationships. The go-it-alone and the each-has-their-own-career types are fine. However, neither is nicht sehr gut for raising kids.

My wife gave up her career when the babies came along, and stayed at home until the youngest was about 10 years old. We sure didn't have much money, but I wouldn't trade our kids for the world. This is not to say that it can't work any other way. Kids are very adaptable. I just think that it sure isn't worth taking a chance.

This isn't very PC, but at this point, I'm old enough to have seen a lot of friends in a lot of different situations. I think the traditional family is absolutely the best for raising kids.

Just my 2 . . . okay, 4 cents worth.

I like your blog, by the way!

Posted by: Oxfat at September 23, 2005 06:12 PM

Wow, I almost NEVER blog anymore due to time constraints, but I do browse the blogosphere, since a lot of friends of mine have blogs.

I agree with you 100% here on the hypocrisy. I'm all for career women having the choice to be career women, but it does seem that when people make the choice not to be, that the choice is significantly put down. It's "dangerous," because "Ooh, what if he leaves you?" Like I'm going to wake up tomorrow and my husband will be gone with some other girl? You wonder about these people's sense of trust in the people they love.

I always feel like saying, "Ooh, but what if you get fired? What if your career goes down the toilet overnight? Then who will you be? How will you support yourself?" If divorce is the worst-case scenario for the homemaker, then firing is the worst-case scenario for the career person. But it's not PC to think that way.

I was on a wedding planning site awhile back, when planning my own wedding, where engaged women were coming out and saying that it was "disgusting" that their sister's "threw their education down the toilet" to raise their children. One even said that she had disowned her sister and thought of her as a Stepford wife, and was on the boards scolding all the at-home wives for "wasting their parents' hard-earned money," because...and I am NOT kidding..."You didn't major in diapers."

So. We are only allowed to do what we major in. I didn't major in eating, so I guess I should starve?

I never did get why wanting to raise one's own children is considered a "waste of a degree" or such a horrible thing. Children are our FAMILY. They are not a pet or a babysitting charge (although, many consider their pets family too, which is ok!). And caring for children is part of the package, not something that is a "college major."

The idea that as long as the baby is fed, clothed, and sheltered, it'll "do fine" even without consistency or stimulation, went out about 75 years ago. So why do so many people insist that bonding with your child is only for people with double-digit IQ's who couldn't do anything else?

Anyway. I could go on and on about this, and I'm sure the Friday night martinis aren't helping me to stop babbling. :-) I might blog more soon, but in the meantime, if you'd like to talk, you can reach me by e-mail.

Posted by: Marian at September 23, 2005 06:45 PM

I bookmarked you, btw.

Posted by: Marian at September 23, 2005 06:46 PM

When I see a Women in a high paying job I think, thats the job a man needs to support a woman!!!

Face it ladies taking care of the house is a full time job, and your children need a mother and not an uncaring daycare Person.

If your going to be Ms. Career woman and flood the workplace with workers, than at least make enough for a replacement mom to clean the house @ 14 bucks an hour.

Its a sad state of affairs these days and any type of feminism I'm against. In Washington the government has passed into law that they may garnish 65% of a mans take home pay!!!

What is the point of getting married if we have to pay when a wife withdrawls her services???

With 2 out of every 3 marriages ending in divorce it does not boad well for the men in this country 90% of Divorces men pay in one form or another!!!

If you ladies want some mild form of equality you need to remove alimoney and childsupport, end Affirmitive action and prove you do not need handouts in any forms at all!!!


Otherwise Your just the voting block that a government that wants to get bigger can do so at will!!!!


[most moby's are a bit more clever and entertaining, but thanks for trying, Verich, don't quit the day job. -- D]

Posted by: Verlch at September 25, 2005 10:03 PM

I'm suprised your not on a Holy Crusade of Feline Censorship!!! Thats usually how feminists silence the male side of the coin...


I've got alot of information up my sleeve. I think I'll spare you, unless of course this blog is free of cesnorship as long as I act like a gentleman??? What do we say Darlene??? Or shall I say 'D'???

Posted by: Verch at September 25, 2005 10:31 PM

I attend Eastern Mich University, I work with many female students who take these women's studies (feminism) courses as part of their basic studies. They are usually advised and registered for these classes by an advisor. About 70% of teh girls who I have known that have taken these classes say one thing "I hate this fucking class"

My generation and the one after me has long rejected 70's feminism. These academics have no clue on what to do but keep doing what they can to prop up his crumbling insititution.

Posted by: Gary at September 26, 2005 04:04 AM